Value of this?

#1 by Vidar Olavesen , Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:25 pm

Bell & Howell TQ II 1655 Spesial, said to be in good working order. What would it be worth?


 
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RE: Value of this?

#2 by Stuart Reid , Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:47 pm

Has it had the worm gear renewed? If not, it could go kaput at literally any second then it'd be worthless, as it would cost way too much to replace it.


 
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RE: Value of this?

#3 by Vidar Olavesen , Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:08 pm

Thanks, Stuart. If it has beenreplaced then?

Not mine, a friend asked, but can’t seem to find any prices


 
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RE: Value of this?

#4 by Stuart Reid , Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:27 pm

I think here in the UK they'd fetch around £50 - £120.


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RE: Value of this?

#5 by Maurice Leakey , Thu Jun 21, 2018 6:39 pm

The TQII is not a popular projector. To keep it fairly compact its electronics are all over the place.
The A1/258 lamps are getting scarce and expensive. However, this also applies to the early TQIIIs.
I agree with Stuart's valuation, but this would only apply if the worm was in perfect condition. If not, it's probably worth very little and could only be sold for spares.


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RE: Value of this?

#6 by Martin Dew , Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:04 pm

I still think they're great projectors if the worm gears are good, and the TQII has an all-metal body too.

The B&Hs also all have three-claw arms and don't wrap the emulsion round the sound head, unlike the Japanese competitors. My two TQIIIs run like a dream and always thread perfectly, but admittedly I've never owned a TQII.



 
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RE: Value of this?

#7 by Mats Abelli , Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:18 pm

In Scandinavia, I would guess about 500 kronor (appx 40 £), if in good operating order. But I´m no fan of autoloads, so I wouldn´t buy it



 
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RE: Value of this?

#8 by Ian Partridge , Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:06 pm

All I can remember is how very heavy and awkward it was to carry and set up. The extra metal bits had sharp corners too.

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RE: Value of this?

#9 by Dave Guest , Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:47 pm

in my opinion this was the worst model ever made I have sold these for as little as £20.00 to get rid of them


 
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RE: Value of this?

#10 by Tom Photiou , Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:03 pm

Maurice / David,
I know you chaps have seen /collected many 16mm projectors in your time, which models,(in your opinions) are the best and most reliable models?
We are on the lookout for a second machine and i am thinking in the way towards one of the the later Eiki slimline models. If i bought a B & H with all the mod cons, (new worm gear especially), it would have to come with a decent 25mm primed lens. We have spent a fair amount on lens's and a scope bracket over the last year for the eiki so i dont want to start all over again on that.
I know the Debris are great machines but the bulbs all seem to be 500/700w so the running costs must be high.
The B & H's seem pretty good and reasonably priced but are more complicated if/ when they go wrong.
I know this may be a bit boring to ask again but there are so many to choose from.
The Eiki slimline slot loaders dont appear to be so common as the NT1 & the older blue models dont appeal to me at all. No point in going older on the Elf's.


 
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RE: Value of this?

#11 by Mark Mander ( deleted ) , Wed Jun 27, 2018 7:36 pm

Tom
Sorry to jump in but I think the B&H machines are noisey and wouldn't go down that route for a second machine, the Elmo CLs are nice but don't really have the greatest sound range adjustments although I do use them myself,I also have a NT1 and like that and the lenses are fairly easy to get hold of,I also have a very late RM brown model that is really quiet and manual load which is a joy to use. Elf slimline model have the best of both worlds,ease of lenses,quiet,kind to film and built well with good sound, finding a decent one for a reasonable price is probably the hardest part,Mark



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RE: Value of this?

#12 by Tom Photiou , Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:04 pm

Hi Mark, please dont apologise, i'd like anyone to join in on this one. I only singled out David and Maurice as i know Maurice does have rather a lot of projectors and David obviously has sold many makes. I do have to agree that the sound from my NT1 is utterly superb, great bass and treble range and a crisp clear and loud range. Especially now i have it going through my pioneer amp.

I should have started a new thread really, i think im hijacking Vidars thread.



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RE: Value of this?

#13 by Mark Mander ( deleted ) , Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:42 pm

I think you've answered your own question then Tom, another NT1 will do you well,Mark



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RE: Value of this?

#14 by Tom Photiou , Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:01 pm

i was looking down that route but i AM hoping to get a good slimline slot loader as the later Eiki's were much improved, then mine that i have now would be my second machine.



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RE: Value of this?

#15 by Martin Dew , Wed Jun 27, 2018 10:39 pm

I think I'm going to get an NT1 too. Bell & Howells are definitely noisy!


 
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