Those of you who have used Filmguard for years; how often would you treat the same print with it?

Depends how your using it Robert, if you have a film that has lines in then Filmguard will remove some of them sometimes all, green/white lines no, so if you coat the film and the lines appear again on another viewing then maybe apply more,

If you've used it to clean a film then after a few viewings its beginning to sound noisey through the gate then apply more. This applies on all reasons I guess once its applied..

Lubrication on films was originally designed in cinemas on rental prints to minimise wear so it's always a good idea to put something on the print, Mark

Thanks Mark; I'm waiting for my first bottle. Looking at old posts by Brad in the other forum, he says it takes a year to dry out; then in another post he says that he has seen prints that had not been treated for 10 years and they ran perfect. You are right, if a film sound a bit noisy, then time to re-lubricate

When i use it im very wearing of this stuff not to use too much. Talking to Kevin Brown and Bill Parsons in the past i learnt a hard lesson. Too much, (especially on B & H projectors) can cause the image to become unsteady.
All i do with mine is a light cost using rewind arms. Then after its bee done, i use a 100% cotton cloth, hankerchiefs work well for me, and when rewinding, i use the dry cloth to take off the excess, but i only use very little pressure so as not to remove too much. At the end of the day, i dont like the film to look too wet or you end up with it it pooling on the film. As many people have said in the past, a little goes a very long way.

I do the same as Tom, just use a dry piece for the manual rewind to pick up excess. I actually use those very fine silk lens cleaning cloths that generous optician stores will sometimes hand out for free!

I have never used this stuff or any other product on either my 8mm or 16mm films period. I have never felt the need to do so, and one the reasons is that reading the comments here its almost impossible to apply this evenly or consistently, therefore my conclusion is you will always have more in one place than another. The thing that worries me is that surely holding a cloth of any kind and running the film through this is going to get a build up of crap from the film in a form of a edge,this is what your trying to remove, and to have dragged across a part of your film that its never been before, is like running your finger nails down a black board. I'm sorry gents you wont get me using the stuff, any of it..............

I used to use 2.22, it was a one off application. I noticed recently that two films, one only bought about 5 years ago and coated with Cresclene, now has a slack take up, yet films coated with 2.22 are still ok. Filmguard says it prevents cupping and sagging, which was what 2.22 did.

Paul, you are right on the build up if you only use the same part of the cloth, but it is important that with each stop to add a bit more cleaner you must change the cloth to a clean piece.
When i do the rewind i also change the cloth to a clean part many times, usually approx every 200ft. If the cloth is filthy on first clean it gets a second clean. If the film appears to have too much cleaner on i will run it through a dry cloth again. The result should be a clean film with only a very light even application.

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I use it in the same manner as Tom has described. I will continue to use it to clean films because I have removed some serious filth from 8mm and 16mm films and running all that dirt in the film path doesn’t seem like a good idea to me.

I think initially Robert was asking when you apply it and not how you apply, Mark

I have always applied cleaner the same way as Tom. I use lint free cloth about 2 inches square, wet it and wrap around the film. I always wipe the outside edges after. Thanks to all those who responded to my question.

Mark, Robert, sorry i did miss the point.
I try to only only. Unless films are kept in damp or dusty conditions i dont think reapplying to often is good for the film or projector. I always clean prints when i buy them before any viewing and hopefully that should be it for me.
I know some collectors clean a print everytime prior to viewing.

I agree with you Tom; hopefully, once is enough.

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I agree applying too much isn't good for the machine ,its very much like WD40 and it will make the film slip through the machine producing flutter on the sound, soundheads dont like it and if you record your films then this will effect the results, once is definitely more than enough to last many viewings, Mark