I Did NOT Expect this. A wee dissapointed

#1 by Tom Photiou , Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:25 pm

Well, you remember a couple days ago i started the thread for the Country and Western spectacular Vol 1 i got from ebay?
Well, it arrived,
No problem with the print, great ebay seller, very good product, but read this, Steve Osborn kindly contacted mt to say he knows of around 120 episodes of this series, he has 8, so tonight i emailed for his opinion, here is my confusion,

Tonight I checked this reel, I also checked our existing Vol 2. This is what I found.
The one I just received, Country and western Vol 1, printed on the leader, labelled on the original box, (not stuck on, but printed on) EVEN the title on the film during the intro is C & W (VOL 1),
I viewed it and the content is identical to my Vol 2. The quality is excellent, the colour and sound both very good.
I then checked my existing Vol 2, the original leader states Vol 2, (printed into the leader), the opening title on the film itself is C & W Vol 2
Now I am worried about buying any more if they should appear in case there are other duplicates. I have never seen this before.
What do you think?
Anyway, here are the screenshots, its still good fun but i dont need two copies thats for sure. BUT, as stated, the seller was A1, the print is very good, as it happens, he had a Vol 2 but as i already had it i didn't bid. This is not the wrong one in the box, nor is there anything to suggest it, the leaders and titles on actual film itself is plain to see. I will pop up an image from Vol 2 later in the thread. These screenshots dont do it any justice as the colours are really something with all the costumes.
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#2 by Robert Crewdson , Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:02 pm

I've never come across that before Tom. It means it's very risky buying future parts.


 
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#3 by Tom Photiou , Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:31 pm

Thats what im thinking Robert. I would like to somehow find a listing somewhere for these 400 footers. I think its odd how one of the big boy distributors of super 8, released so many of this series yet ive not been able to tap into any information from any of our old cine magazines. i wonder if they were either only released in the states or simply not that popular at the time.


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#4 by Robert Crewdson , Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:45 pm

I never heard of them before Tom; perhaps Steve Osbourne will be able to tell you more.


 
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#5 by Eivind Mork , Sat Jun 16, 2018 10:38 am

A very special incident, I must say. I have never heard anyone experience this before :-/


 
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#6 by Tom Photiou , Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:44 am

It is so weird Eivind,
I have to say, there must be people reading this who must think, thats not possible if the film itself is titled Vol 1 and Vol 2,.During next week, just to show you, i will try my best to do a short video and pop it onto you tube for a week only to show you what i mean. It is the most weird thing ever for me as a collector. Two films from a TV series, both with a different title, all be simply Vol 1 and Vol 2, but the content is identical.



 
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#7 by Mats Abelli , Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:17 pm

Weird! I Guess that the lab have managed to mix up the negatives and used the same negative With two different leaders. Never heard about anything like this.


 
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#8 by Bill Phelps , Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:57 pm

I should screen my vol 2 and see if the content is different from what your vol 1 and 2 are. I'll get back to you on that.


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#9 by Tom Photiou , Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:03 pm

That would be great Bill. Look forward to your findings.tomorrow evening i will list the contents of mine and report back.


 
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#10 by Bill Phelps , Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:55 pm

I screened my vol 2 and it's totally different from the screenshots you show for vol 1 so I think what you have there as vol 1 is in fact vol 1 your vol 2 is actually another vol 1. I took some screenshots and I will post them later.



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RE: I Did NOT Expect this. A wee dissapointed

#11 by Bill Phelps , Mon Jun 18, 2018 1:39 am

Here are screenshots from my vol 2. It also says this on the leader.

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#12 by Tom Photiou , Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:18 am

Thanks Bill. I will check mine later tonight.


 
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