Film cleaning, colour on the cloth

#1 by Tom Photiou , Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:49 pm

Something a bit odd this evening, I've cleaned up a film which is a 90s LPP print. We all know when you clean a film you may get a little oxide or stripe colour come off onto the cloth, but this print appears to have taken off a little blue. Again, there is nothing unusual in al little colour coming off, generally this happens with older acetate prints, but I've not seen this happen on an LPP 90s print before. The treatment was more to ensure the film was lubricated as 99.9% of our films are clean. First thing we do with any new or used film is clean it, if necessary we do it twice if it's a dirty print, sometimes it beggars believe how some previous owners have clearly never cleaned a print.

Has anyone else had this kind of colour lift off a print?

To be fair, I cant see it has effected the print one bit, I was just a bit surprised to see anything other than maybe a little oxide from the sound stripe but on Thursday I'll be viewing it and adding it to the 52 weeks thread.


 
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RE: Film cleaning, colour on the cloth

#2 by Vidar Olavesen , Tue Feb 13, 2024 9:52 pm

Hope it is not as The Sting I bought at a meeting in UK. It was kinda sticky, so I tried cleaning it, It is now blank leader, everything came off


 
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RE: Film cleaning, colour on the cloth

#3 by Tom Photiou , Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:28 pm

Blimy Vidar, no nothing like that, this is a polyester LPP print, not at all sticky, sounds like that print you had may have been store for years somewhere damp or in a loft maybe.
This is the first time ive seen any colour come off a later print, hopefully, it's nothing.


 
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RE: Film cleaning, colour on the cloth

#4 by Barry Attwood , Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:29 am

Tom,

Don't worry about it too much, I had back in the day a 3x400' of "Way Out West" from Derann on colour stock, it was pretty blue in places, I cleaned it half a dozen times, and each time I got more blue hue off the print, in the end the print was just slightly blue, quite acceptable as it was sold as a white box special.

I think a lot of the LPP prints had this quirk, but as you only sporadically clean films, it doesn't really matter that much, in my opinion that is!


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RE: Film cleaning, colour on the cloth

#5 by Tom Photiou , Wed Feb 14, 2024 7:21 pm

I think so to Barry, i know there are some collectors who will clean a film prior to every viewing, that is way too much,this print wont be done again for around three to five years, assuming it dosnt get sold before hand.


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RE: Film cleaning, colour on the cloth

#6 by Tom Photiou , Fri Feb 16, 2024 9:33 pm

Barry, as you will see from last nights screens shots on my 52 weeks thread, (silence of the lambs) colours are A1 and a hell of a lot more vivid than the images taken by the pokey little digital camera I use, nothing to worry about in the end as you said.


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RE: Film cleaning, colour on the cloth

#7 by Eivind Mork , Fri Feb 23, 2024 2:39 pm

Which cleaner was this?


 
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RE: Film cleaning, colour on the cloth

#8 by Tom Photiou , Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:07 pm

This is filmguard, and only very little applied as it can cause all sorts of problems if over applied.


 
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RE: Film cleaning, colour on the cloth

#9 by Eivind Mork , Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:10 pm

That was new to me, that filmguard could remove the film base. I have never experienced that. As you say, the stripe might give some color, but that's all I have seen myself. I better test it a bit before I do a whole reel from now on.


 
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