Well guys, it's finally happened, I have ventured into the dark side, yes I now have a 16mm projector. It's not the TQ111 I was going for as when I got to the guys house and had another look at it and then looked at his Elmo 16-CL, the TQ111 looked like a bag of spanners, needless to say I bought the 16-CL, it is so quiet, probably even quieter than the GS, also picked up quite a few films too, a lot of them will be going though, lots of documentaries and specialist stuff, will put a list together at some point soon.