WARNING ! VINEGAR SYNDROME HEALTH HAZARD

#1 by David Hardy ( deleted ) , Sun May 29, 2016 10:42 am

Here is some more information regarding V.S. on film and tapes.
I quote ...
" Close contact ( touching or sniffing ) severely degraded acetate and nitrate
film could be hazardous to your health.

Acetate acid and other acidic products associated with film decay can produce
contact burns and skin and mucous- membrane irritation. Dizziness and light -
headedness can occur.

Wear protective gloves and work in a well ventilated area when handling degraded film "

My advice is to do what I do chuck the stuff in the bin, Unless of course you
have an extremely rare print in your collection that is not available in
any other format. In such cases transfer said print to new stock and dump
the degraded one right away.
We are after all only film collectors and not film archivists.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!!!



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#2 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Sun May 29, 2016 6:56 pm

Very sound info there Dave, indeed if we are storing our films correctly there shouldn't be any probs, although if any collectors
did have any rare films affected, where the hell are they to find the labs, ours are gone, would it be worthwhile, I doubt it.



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#3 by Timothy Duncan ( deleted ) , Sun May 29, 2016 8:38 pm

Guess I'm out of the woods since my recently acquired 16mm machine conked out! :-( . I have no worries with my 8mm collection.


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RE: WARNING ! VINEGAR SYNDROME HEALTH HAZARD

#4 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Sun May 29, 2016 8:53 pm

What happened there Tim? Anything we can help with ?



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#5 by Eivind Mork , Sun May 29, 2016 8:54 pm

I am sorry to hear that, Timothy. Is it a real serious breakdown, or for you think it is fixable?



 
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#6 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Sun May 29, 2016 9:04 pm

Elvind, my little son ( term of endearment ), I'll dig out those old Bell & Howells and check out the lens arrangements,
if they are the same, and parts okay, I'll send them to Vidar, or let me know your address. Hugh.



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RE: WARNING ! VINEGAR SYNDROME HEALTH HAZARD

#7 by David Hardy ( deleted ) , Sun May 29, 2016 10:27 pm

Yes Timothy what is the problem with your 16 mill machine ?
Hugh is right someone may be able to help you resolve your problem.


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#8 by David Hardy ( deleted ) , Sun May 29, 2016 10:29 pm

Yeah your right there Hugh.
Where are the bloody labs ?


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#9 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Sun May 29, 2016 10:47 pm

Its a sad fact though Dave, if I had some silent film in my care, not that they are a first love, but are a very important
part of film history, what the hell do we do, BFI ?



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#10 by Gwyn Morgan , Sun May 29, 2016 11:17 pm

I have a couple of films with vs.ikeep them totally separate and out in the garage away from any other film.i also use an old projector especially if I want to view them,and again it's always outside in well ventilated garage,and the projector is not used for any other films.
One appreciates the risks involved with vs but sometimes as long as precautions are taken and the film handled to the highest degree I don't see the problem as long as you take precautions.
Some films are just to good to ditch even though they smell a bit.
If the film is falling apart then yes it goes ,but if it smells a bit ,not warped,and takes up ok then it's worth trying to keep the film to the bitter end.


 
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#12 by Eivind Mork , Mon May 30, 2016 1:11 pm

Quote: Hugh Thompson Scott wrote in post #6
Elvind, my little son ( term of endearment ), I'll dig out those old Bell & Howells and check out the lens arrangements,
if they are the same, and parts okay, I'll send them to Vidar, or let me know your address. Hugh.

Thanks so much for all the help, Hugh, but I believe I have fixed the problem now. When I finally realized that a cover plate also added friction to the focus mechanism, I was able to tighten the screws and (with the added friction) get rid of my focus problem. So you don't need to find parts for me. But thanks a lot for all your effort and putting me on the track for finding the source of the real problem!



 
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