Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#1 by Tom Photiou , Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:03 pm

Last night we viewed one of my favourites, the 1971 movie Kidnapped.
We did have this one for many years on 8mm as a 4 x 400 version from Walton but unfortunately, the colours began to dissapear quite quickly so this was a very good purchase form Mr Guest three or four years ago. It still has excellent colours, (unfortunately the images dont show the bright greens very well). I still think this film is very underrated. It has a really good cast including,
Michael Caine, Jack Hawkins, Donald Pleasence, Jack Watson, Trevor Howard, Gordon Jackson and Freddie Jones, among a few others, all very good actors. I read that this movie was originally made for television which, if you see it on the scope screen like this, just wouldn't be the same. Well worth a look if you havnt seen it before.

For those interested, the screenshots are in the review here,
Kidnapped, 2 x 1200 + 1 x 1600 Scope Colour



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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#2 by Gwyn Morgan , Fri Apr 02, 2021 2:45 pm

Looking at the print from 2019 the film looks a lovely print.As you say an underrated film anything with Michael Caine in always worth a good view.I’m sure I saw a print up for sale quite recently maybe from the States.
Another good film Tom.


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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#3 by Robert Crewdson , Fri Apr 02, 2021 4:42 pm

I don't know if it was made for TV. This title has turned up quite often in the past, but getting a good colour one is a different matter. it's a very good version, and was filmed in Scotland.


 
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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#4 by Tom Photiou , Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:35 pm

I was lucky with this print. At the time Dave Guest had two copies and this was the better of the two. Its and American internation theatrical print with rating after the end titles.


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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#5 by Greg Perry , Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:57 pm

Tom,

One look at the pics in 'Scope' and it would be a bit of a let-down to watch the same film in flat format.
Glad to see the home cinema is getting some use now after the previous unfortunate shut-down due to the water damage... 👍👍



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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#6 by Tom Photiou , Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:05 pm

It's getting there now Greg, i am without any of the wall posters, but this results in a better light in the room. Its surprising how much light gets reflected off them. I said i'll have three or four up and then change them every month or so. I'm still looking for the non reflective plastic to use in the frames but so far, its way too expensive for the use i need.

Regarding Kidnapped, while the walton feature always looked good, opening up the sides to widescreen on this 16mm full feature print really does make all the difference. The beautiful scenery of the Lochs of Scotland is fantastic. A copy sold on ebay today for just £87, i may well be a very good print but unfortunately there were no screenshots, but as Robert said, it does come up now and then.


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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#7 by Robert Crewdson , Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:36 pm

Michael Caine put in a very good performance. I also like the 1960 Disney version with Peter Finch and john Laurie, which I think was filmed in Scotland. There is also a good 1930s version with Freddie Bartholomew and Sir C. Aubrey Smith.


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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#8 by David Skillern , Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:21 am

Hi Tom,

Yes - I saw the copy for sale on ebay but was put off by no screenshots - the same seller also had Coming Home which is an excellent anti vietnam war picture with Oscar winning performances from Jon Voight and Jane Fonda - but again no screen shots.


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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#9 by Tom Photiou , Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:52 am

David, i was also looking at that one as well, but if there's no screenshots i cant buy unless the price is silly.
The sad part is, they may well have both been very good but the seller may not get what they are worth without screenshot from the print.


 
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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#10 by Robert Crewdson , Sun Apr 04, 2021 7:31 am

Do you know what stock yours is; I have only ever seen Eastman prints.


 
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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#11 by Tom Photiou , Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:36 am

Ours is an Eastman print Robert. I would like to find a good Agfa print knowing it would last longer. When i bought mine it was described as very slight fade but still with excellent colours. As of yet i cant see any fade but im sure over time we will. The film room is nice and cool all year round and we now have a good dehumidifier to keep this under control as well so hopefully, it may help slow down any fade on some of our films, at the end of the day i guess it will be inevitable.



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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#12 by Robert Crewdson , Sun Apr 04, 2021 4:16 pm

Keeping it cool will help. I did read that the fading process slows or stops after something like 15-20 years. Most prints are older than that.


 
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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#13 by Tom Photiou , Sun Apr 04, 2021 8:58 pm

Unfortunately, its the nature of the beast with film, eventually, all stocks will fade, but Eastman and other old stocks will eventually turn red. In hot humid countries, this will be a faster process. One thing about the UK, the weathers on our side for preserving films. I think a lot of people made the mistake of putting films in lofts. This particular print for an Eastman stock film is excellent, the colours are so much more vibrant than what you see here, especially the greens and blue of the sky and lochs.



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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#14 by Greg Perry , Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:32 pm

Tom,

That is really surprising to hear the print is regular Eastman--but good for you that is has such nice color. I have a few T&J cartoons in 16mm that are Eastman and do not yet have the fade either.



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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#15 by Tom Photiou , Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:12 am

Later on today i'll double check the film to see if i can see the stock but im sure Dave Guest said it was Eastman. If it turned out to be Agfa that would be a great bonus.
The thing i find most odd is that American International presentation and MPAF G rating, this appears two thirds the way into the end titles, it isn't spliced on and song by Mary Hopkins continues into these titles, then the MPAF rating fades out while the songs continues to its end during around a minute and a half of black tail. There are no splices during any of it.


 
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RE: Kidnapped 1971 Michael Caine.

#16 by Greg Perry , Mon Apr 05, 2021 4:38 pm

That does seem odd to have the ratings cards in the midst of the credits. I think the US and the UK may do things differently on the ratings cards. I always thought the UK had the rating card at the beginning, but maybe I am wrong.
In the US -- for trailers, the rating card appears before the trailer starts.
But for features, the ratings card comes at the very end of the film--after all the credits are complete. That doesn't make a lot of sense, but there is a reason for this.
The Ratings card is not assigned until AFTER the feature film's final edit is complete. Then it is submitted for rating by the MPAA. That rating is then tagged on to the end of the feature. With the idea that viewers choose a movie by making an informed choice in advance of going to the cinema then they already know what the rating is--so no real need for the rating at the start I guess.

I believe this is accurate, but I am no expert on this, so please correct me on this if I have it wrong for the U.S.



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