Alien

#1 by Vidar Olavesen , Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:14 pm

Scope, stereo, Derann and was a bit less than I hoped, as it was very dark. Some scenes you can hardly see what's going on. Otherwise it was nice (maybe a bit blueish too)









































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RE: Alien

#2 by Vidar Olavesen , Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:18 pm










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RE: Alien

#3 by Gwyn Morgan , Thu Mar 17, 2016 3:29 pm

Vidar,looks very nice glad you enjoyed it I'm sure you will get hours of pleasure from this film ...enjoy📽📽📽📽📽


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#4 by Eivind Mork , Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:15 pm

You finally got it! :-) Looking forward to hear more about it tomorrow at the meeting in the Norwegian film collectors association!



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RE: Alien

#5 by Del Phillipson ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:18 pm

Looks very very nice Vidar, well done.



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#6 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:25 pm

Bloody Hell Vidar..... If I printed them off, I've got a print myself, but I AM THRILLED YOU GOT YOUR PRINT, you lucky liitle sod pot!
Needless to say, piccy's are superb, like Andrew, your love of a film shines through. I just hope WE ALL get those elusive films, but
well done on acquiring this one, are you a happy camper?



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RE: Alien

#7 by Timothy Duncan ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:32 pm

It has been YEARS since I watched this (back in the videocassette era)! To watch it again would be like seeing it for the first time! Congratulations on your acquisition Vidar! Thank you for the terrific screenshots!


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#8 by Vidar Olavesen , Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:34 pm

Yes, I am :-) Luckily there is more good films to hunt down :-) Part of the fun ;-)


 
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RE: Alien

#9 by Luís Caramelo , Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:39 pm

hi! my friend,congratiolations for your print,very similiar to mine,finaly your dream come true,that,s a keeper
i,m glad for you...


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RE: Alien

#10 by Vidar Olavesen , Thu Mar 17, 2016 9:47 pm

Is yours very dark too? Can you also see some sideways movement in the picture?

Thanks, only sell if I get a Scope 16mm with good colour :-)


 
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RE: Alien

#11 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:09 pm

I'm just pleased young Sir that you have finally got this print, As for sideways weave, does it do the same on other machines, The reason
I say this, is something Elmo users will NOT admit, the guides wear, film does eventually cut into them. They are easily taken out and reground, but they DO WEAR. I speak from long experience.



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RE: Alien

#12 by Paul Browning , Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:20 pm

Excellent screen shots Vidar, the print looks really great, but you say its dark in place's and blue in others, the balance looks about right to me, its what I would have expected
from a film shot in spaceship. The well lit scene's look spot on to me, great colour and no lines.


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#13 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:25 pm

Exactly Paul, its not as though it's shot on a mobile phone is it. I'd say Vidar has done well, like I said, check out on another
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RE: Alien

#14 by Vidar Olavesen , Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:29 pm

Will do a test on my Sankyo 800, but I really think it's from the printing process.


 
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RE: Alien

#15 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:33 pm

Looks great Vidar and thanks for posting an extended amount for us all to view it in detail. A lot of these later Derann prints can have some blue tinge overall, but I agree with Paul's assessment in that, where is supposed to be bright and vibrant in colour...it is!

I am also glad the condition matched your expectations also Vidar. This is the important issue here when spending large sums on the premium titled prints. Great Job!


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#16 by Paul Browning , Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:38 pm

Lets not forget this is a super 8 print, not 16mm or 35mm, and it's incredible that so much detail can be squeezed onto such a small area, it looks fantastic to me Vidar.


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RE: Alien

#17 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:54 pm

I think Vidar has at last got himself a nice print of his film, but as I said before, I mentioned it once befor on the SFFF, it was as it
i'd done something naughty in Church, no one admitted to this problem, I went further by saying that maybe they didn't use them as often, well show a cross to a vampire, yes I'm Dracula, these machines never have this problem, 'cept they fucking do, big time, they wear, which in time will not be good for sprockets, I'm not an Engineer, but just an experienced user, just be vigilant, these machines
are not made of Sheffield steel, otherwise they would last forever, they are made from cheap pressed stuff that does wear. The guides
DO WEAR, FILM DOES CUT INTO THEM, what the hell do I know.



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RE: Alien

#18 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:00 pm

You don't need to be engineer to work this one out Hugh. The evidence over the decades is overwhelming both in the things that we read on forums and the likes, and often, the films that we buy.


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#19 by Vidar Olavesen , Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:19 pm

Mr. Parsons has checked the guides and all on mine and I bought the metal one from Steve Osborne (where you load the film). Am I still in danger? I have never seen any marks on my films after running them


 
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RE: Alien

#20 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:22 pm

Just as a thought to this forum, BRITISH STEEL is the best you can get, I recently bought a "Carbon Steel" pocket knife from France,
Carbon my Arse, it bent when puncturing an aerosol container, carbon from Sheffield woukd never have bent, it might have snapped,
but carbon steel does NOT bend, more Euroshite.



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RE: Alien

#21 by Vidar Olavesen , Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:25 pm

I love British Steel :-) Judas Priest rocks


 
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RE: Alien

#22 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:26 pm

Not yet Vidar, I'd guess. Bill has seen and serviced your machine to, no doubt, a very high standard and quite recently in relative terms.
The metal initial shoe, really helps apparently, but the mindset of many, is that this solves all.
There are at least 3 other places along the guides that need regular cleaning and inspection from what I have seen and read.
Just keep an eye on it over the years and then maybe, once you suspect the time is right, maybe look to the new modified range of guides from Van Eck perhaps?


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#23 by Vidar Olavesen , Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:31 pm

Thanks, I have thought about asking that Italian guy that does fixes on the GS's to check it and modify it, but not gotten around to it yet


 
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RE: Alien

#24 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:38 pm

Andrew, with best respect, I don't think Van Eck do hard tempered metal, these are the metal gate guides, not the plastic ones after
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RE: Alien

#25 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 17, 2016 11:54 pm

No they don't Hugh, but they have modified the design based on past recommended improvements by users, to incorporate extra rollers to keep the film away from stationary plastic completely along the film path's length.

Nothing so far provides a permanent fix, but every little helps as they say!

There are far too many points of contact on the Elmo ST and GS range I'd say, to ever completely rule out random markings at some point in time.

What you really want is next to nothing but the gate itself, two sprockets and the mag head coming anywhere near the moving film frame in an ideal world.
This takes extreme precision on a frame the size of Super 8,to keep stationary parts supportive but away from the frame.
The best threading and guiding mechanisms get most things well out of harm's way ,in run though i've noticed.
Certainly the stationary parts anyhow once threading is done.



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