Hateful Eight

#1 by Vidar Olavesen , Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:30 pm

Just home from the cinema. Wow, what a film. It looked and sounded just awesome. Magical experience. And it was really violent with effects from John Dykstra, which surprised me a bit :-)

If you have a craving for violence, nice editing, photo, go see it if you can


 
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RE: Hateful Eight

#2 by Mats Abelli , Sat Feb 06, 2016 8:56 pm

I`d like to see it in 70mm Panavision, but there are no tickets left in Oslo, as far as I can see.


 
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#3 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:33 pm

Praise indeed Vidar, for a digital screening.ha ha.


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#4 by Vidar Olavesen , Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:36 pm

Digital my a** ;-) Glorious 70mm


 
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#5 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:38 pm

Ah thought I must have it wrong. 70mm wow that would be a spectacular.
I haven't seen film at a cinema in years here Vidar.


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#6 by Vidar Olavesen , Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:42 pm

I try to go to all that show film, but only been to Star Wars digital, before that I believe it might have been Prometheus. I like to support the 35/70mm shows :-) Tarantino is doing his best to get people to see film. I am not sure the digital showing of this has started yet, as it was only 70mm first with additional footage not in the digital version. I have such respect for Tarantino's commitment to film


 
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#7 by Alan Rik , Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:40 am

I just read that Tarantino borrowed a vintage Martin Guitar for the film (from the Martin Guitar Companies Vault) and then destroyed it on camera. Martin Co. was very upset and said they will never loan out any of their guitars for any other films.
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#8 by John Hourigan ( deleted ) , Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:10 am

I’m sorry, but the “save film” movement needs to have a better standard bearer than Tarantino, a director who, although talented, seems to have an an insatiable blood lust. His movies are very formulaic, always ending with the camera lingering lovingly on the crescendo of violence and the aftermath of butchered bodies. I’m no prude, but I really have to wonder about a person’s presence of mind who makes a living thinking of “creative” ways to graphically represent people being butchered onscreen. And with today’s mass shootings in the news, I’m afraid we’re reaping what we’ve sown from a contaminated culture perspective. I’m 55, and I can’t deny the contributing corrosive effect this type of blood lust as entertainment has had on society.

So I have to respectfully disagree that Tarantino is a great standard bearer for the film format. Surely we can do better.



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#9 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:55 am

I gotta say John, I quite like Tarantino films.

Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction in particular spring to mind.
I see them only ever for what they are personally,.. fantasy adventure/ horror films , just as the same can be said of Hostel or Saw etc etc etc.

They certainly don't make me want to walk the streets feeling like ten men, snorting cocaine and wielding a gun or knife while slaying strangers to a tortuous death.

Surely we cannot make fantasy fiction films responsible for our own behaviour's or atrocities we witness and live among in society these days can we?
If people are of sound mind, nothing will inspire them to carry out such hennas crimes I don't believe.


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#10 by Vidar Olavesen , Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:26 am

At least people like them, it was sold out every screening

It looks fantastic


 
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#11 by Martin Dew , Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:10 am

Steven Spielberg still shoots on film and so does Paul Thomas Anderson. In fact Phantom Thread has been playing in 70mm and 35mm and looks amazing. They're certainly both standard bearers.

And I agree with you, John, to the extent that although I don't mind violence if it's contextual, I don't like the cruelty that's meted out on Tarantino's victims. It's unnecessary and not funny. I'm no prude either, but I sometimes feel Tarantino is just making films for teenagers.



 
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#12 by Robert Crewdson ( deleted ) , Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:49 am

I don't think I have seen any films by Tarantino, but I agree with John. Film is a very powerful medium. Some people even take the soap operas seriously as real life; with stars being threatened over the way they treated their on screen wife. Most of us can watch a violent film then just get on with our lives, but some can be affected and try to copycat what they have seen.



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#13 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:50 am

People need to take responsibility for their own actions Robert. Simple as that.
Any doctors surgery now will say the same thing as I hear on an almost daily basis.

If people are unable to differentiate fact from fiction, entertainment or fantasy from reality, they have some serious issues to deal with I reckon.
Its called escapism for a reason.


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#14 by Robert Crewdson ( deleted ) , Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:33 am

Older UK members will remember Edward Woodward as Callan, and Russell Hunter as his informant 'Lonely'. Hunter was dressed like a tramp, and Woodward was always telling him to have a wash. Viewers started sending him bars of soap.



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#15 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:38 am

Clearly those viewers didn't understand the entire simple concept of escapism and reality then Robert.

Each day I pass an army of young dreamers stood outside the entrance of ITV and BBC Headquarters now here in Manchester, all just dying to walk the footsteps of their favourite soap star or latest reality TV celebrity.
In the meantime real life is simply passing them by and no part do they play in it.
What was it again that Andy Warhol once predicted?


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#16 by John Hourigan ( deleted ) , Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:01 pm

Thanks, Andrew, but I indicated that these types of things “contribute” to the cultural corrosion, not the sole cause of it. And, you’re right, Hostel, Saw and other “torture porn” certainly contribute to this corrosion/coarsening as well.

Martin, I couldn’t agree more with your post.



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#17 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:56 pm

Agreed John that they could never be the sole cause.

If they could ever even contribute to anybody's behaviour, then the problem must already exist in somebody's mental state as with any other brain washing social decay and radicalism tactics found and then successfully transferred in society sadly.

We are never going to sweep all that's bad in this world under a carpet and keep it all out of harm's way from the unhinged, so all we can do is manage those that are in society, just as we always did far before the invention of film, television or the internet.


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#18 by Robert Crewdson ( deleted ) , Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:44 pm

There are recorded cases of people committing murder after playing these violent video games. Better if these things weren't manufactured, but no doubt it makes a lot of money for someone, and money is all they care about.



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#19 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:49 pm

I still cannot see it beyond people making pathetic lame excuses for their own shortcomings and weakness, personally.

Like I said, people always have to take full responsibility for THEIR own actions and if they did, they'd blame nobody but themselves for their lunacy in such circumstances.

Why is it nowadays, that everyone always has to look to something or somebody else to blame for their own misgivings?


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#20 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:52 pm

Don't all answer at once, will you!


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#21 by Robert Crewdson ( deleted ) , Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:05 am

Talking about people outside the TV studios in Manchester. I went on the original Granada Studios Tour in the 80s, and saw Coronation Street, and had a drink in the Rovers; plus they had Baker Street from the Jeremy Brett Sherlock Holmes series, and Checkpoint Charlie, from some forgotten series about the Cold War.



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#22 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:09 am

Been there, bought the T Shirt Robert!

See the Cadillac at the beginning of the tour by any chance? 😁

I've now seen the old tour plus the new tour with my wife, my Mum and her best friend last year.

It is most interesting for those yet to see it all and how it all hits our small screens.


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#23 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:40 am

Nobody still answered the 24 million dollar question I noticed!

#19.

Probably because nobody can possibly explain why we are so very very coveted with people riddled with issues, social problems and poor mental health and social depravity that's probably why!!!

Michael Jackson ironically, sorted it best with his song "Man in The Mirror"..


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RE: Hateful Eight

#24 by Robert Crewdson ( deleted ) , Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:58 am

I don't remember the cadillac. There was that cinema with seats that moved, and you had to be strapped in.



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#25 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Tue Feb 20, 2018 1:14 am

The American cars were right at the very outset of the old tour Robert. I remember the cinema with the moving seats as well as the excellent Sherlock Holmes set as well as the Charlie Drake Big/ Small set and the theatrical make up dept etc etc etc.

The New tour is just as good in a completely different manner.


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