RE: FILM DECAY

#26 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Sat Jan 23, 2016 11:37 pm

Exactly David, they made a film degreaser for this stuff, for folk that needed to stripe a film. I seriously miss it,2.22. On Tom, I am concerned
and will contact him, I've used all these film treatments over the years, to no ill effects, I am safety aware and my partner even lets me
use scissors, ain't she a pain. Seriously, all this drivel on chemics in our film preservatives gets my goat, it is not good for the climate, yet bombs and missiles are dropped, being loaded with depleted radioactive crap. We should not use aerosols, in the past, but Atomic tests were okay. A joke. Be very careful of your calorie intake, normally it would be okay, before the food industry loaded your meal with fats, synthetic
fats and various additives and preservatives and flavourings, yes. Not being a friggin' zombie, I'd reckon we are all being slowly poisoned
by governments, its a big business is the food trade. Eat organic. Back to our friend Tom, you MUST get some tests done, also, I would hope our mate Vidar is doing what the doctor ordered, you chaps are invaluable, keep yourselves safe lads. Seriously, your health is paramount.



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RE: FILM DECAY

#27 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:28 am

Seriously boys, get your act together, it must be serious to me, I'm missing bed time, but please have checks, your "mother
hen" Scott. Tom , Vidar, get it sorted.



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RE: FILM DECAY

#28 by Douglas Warren ( deleted ) , Sun Jan 24, 2016 3:54 am

Hugh,
Since I'm a beginning collector of 16 mm,I'm glad to hear that WD40 works well as a cleaner.How do you go about applying it to your films? What's the best type of cloth to use for the application? Thanks!



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RE: FILM DECAY

#29 by Vidar Olavesen , Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:48 am

I bought cloths from Steve Osborne that I hope is kind to film. I too wonder if you apply to cloth or drag film through a bath and then use cloth to get rid of excess WD40? I am going to try on a few lost causes first


 
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RE: FILM DECAY

#30 by Eivind Mork , Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:28 pm

I searched a bit about WD-40. I can see that a lot of people have used it and says it is OK. I found a post made by John Pytlak that said the opposite, though. I learned that John Pytlak worked for Kodak (you can see a clip of him here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBvxfIQirvo). In a post at this page http://www.film-tech.com/ubb/f1/t004515.html he says:

Zitat

If you want to leach the dyes out of color print film, use lubricants like WD-40 on the film. [Eek!]

Color dyes are oil soluble! Often you will see a magenta coloration if you wipe off an oily print with a white tissue --- that's the magenta image dye!

Oily lubricants can also make dirt stick to the print, and cause the film to stick to itself, so winding an even roll becomes difficult. "Oil Mottle" is a known problem when projector oil gets on prints, and shows up as blotches on the projected image:

http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/support/h1/cleaning.shtml

http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motio...cal/hand2.shtml




So I am still sceptical.

Kodak have just announced a new cleaning system by the way:
http://motion.kodak.com/US/en/motion/Abo...tem/default.htm



 
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RE: FILM DECAY

#31 by David Ollerearnshaw , Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:59 pm

Kodak the film fade company. They should know about the dyes coming off. Bring back 2.22 Hughs the man

Are your scissors the plastic type?


I still love the smell of film in the morning


 
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RE: FILM DECAY

#32 by Eivind Mork , Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:59 am

Anyone tried isopropyl to clean film? Kodak suggests that:

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/consumer/...45/cis145.shtml

Does anyone know about what Agfa, Fuji and others recommends?



 
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RE: FILM DECAY

#33 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Mon Jan 25, 2016 2:47 pm

I remember a cleaner/treatment from Kodak, sold by Derann that was actually harmful to filmstock, I haven't experienced any
hardships through using WD40 yet, it is just a wipe, not a soak, besides, as I said before, Kodak should be expert on film fade,
they introduced Eastman, and knew at the time it would suffer from fading, so any lessons from that quarter are to be taken
with a pinch of salt.



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