The Columbia releases of Jason & Sinbad

#1 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:44 am

It has been a recent revelation that the American and UK releases differed, Can our American members tell us how.I thought
I'd bought the US releases fresh of the boat in '72, '73, At this moment in time, I'm beset by butterflies that hibernate beneath out floor
and appear at odd times, supposedly rare, only because the buggers all live here with Scott! Forgive any typo's. Anyway, my copies of "Jason" were lovely colour, the Sinbad" were variable, all sharp, but the first two reels were faded colour, the last two were okay, the third was stunning in fact. I know for a fact that the UK releases were horrible, but it is the editing that intrigues me.



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RE: The Columbia releases of Jason & Sinbad

#2 by David Ollerearnshaw , Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:40 pm

Not watched for ages, but my Jason was the American print very good. I bought the UK version of Golden Voyage. Terrible. A lot of Mountain Films were like that, done on the cheap.


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RE: The Columbia releases of Jason & Sinbad

#3 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:25 am

I was just going on views ages ago on the differing editing Dave, these were the first. it might just have been the Mountain re edits, which they reduced in running time, but I understand that in America the colour was good, then why was I sold red American prints,
in the early '70s, all the distributors had the same batch, the first two reel prints were red. On "Golden Voyage", all were good colour,
but needed re editing. I think we were sold shit from the USA in the years early 70's, I tried various distributors, the result was the same, poor colour, another nail in the coffin of my love of America ,Sinbad was a loser for me, hence my poor regard for USA distributors.Send the shit prints abroad!!!



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RE: The Columbia releases of Jason & Sinbad

#4 by David Hardy ( deleted ) , Fri Dec 04, 2015 12:13 pm

That's the main reason I bought the Super 8mm Colour Full Length prints of both these films.
Poor quality on the cutdowns.
The 7th Voyage Of Sinbad full length print is far from perfect but a helluva lot better than the edited
200 footers. The same for Jason.


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RE: The Columbia releases of Jason & Sinbad

#5 by Tom Photiou , Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:19 pm

we have an 800 foot version made up of the 2nd 3rd and 4th reels of jason, so far only slight fade but all pretty good, this is all joined to the full 400 foot version that Derann released of Talos virtually the whole of the talos part uncut.. it has superb print sound and colours, it makes a very good 40 minute version with full front titles. You would not believe how many times i returned the 200 foot part one back to mountain films before i got one that was any good. There service on this was a disgrace, especially when they tried to say that one copy with crap sound and a soft image was " a good average print". I never dealt with them again after.



 
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RE: The Columbia releases of Jason & Sinbad

#6 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:55 am

Way to go Tom on the "Jason" extracts, that first piece with Talos was better than the feature regarding quality. Myself, I was dead lucky
on Jason, all Standard 8, perfect when bought,'71, but great colour, one part has gone. The Sinbads were a fiasco, I had prints from ALL
the distributors, including Capitol Films, all were the same faded red for the reels 1 & 2, I was so disappointed, nothing like the pictures on the boxes, so where the Americans say their prints were okay, defeats me, mine were American prints, the first two were RED, sharp but red prints, the other 3 & 4 were great. The Mountain re releases on SUPER 8 were a very odd colour, not red, but blue overtone.
The impression I got was this, good colour of 1 & 2 never existed. I have the features on S/8 and 16mm full length, but missed the colour
on the first spools of Sinbad, when folks wanted to see it. Jason was great from Derann, also on Fuji 16mm.



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