VALLEY OF GWANGI

#1 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:07 pm

A rare title on the small gauge, I know the lads that put it out, German sound track, excellent editing, in fact THE best edit of a 3x400
that I have ever seen, its difficult to remember what has been left out. Ray would have been very proud of this, it even has the prologue
full main and end titles, indeed a template for other 3x400's, pity these lads didn't edit some of the other releases.


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RE: VALLEY OF GWANGI

#2 by Douglas Warren ( deleted ) , Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:15 pm

As a child I really loved this film.It's been years since I last saw it and your screenshots make me want to view it again.



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RE: VALLEY OF GWANGI

#3 by Robert Crewdson ( deleted ) , Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:17 pm

Very sharp print, great screenshots.



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RE: VALLEY OF GWANGI

#4 by Steve Carter ( deleted ) , Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:27 pm

Gwangi and Mysterious Island are underated Harryhausen pictures, when I was a kid in my mind I knew when a monster was going to appear in a Harryhausen film because the background or foreground would go 'grainy' because of the back projection used with the stop frame animation, funny thing it was worse on the later Clash of the Titans, that film was very grainy.


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RE: VALLEY OF GWANGI

#5 by Robert Crewdson ( deleted ) , Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:57 pm

I never noticed the graininess; Clash of the Titans is not the best of his British films; the scene I like best is the Gorgon (is that correct), who turns anyone into stone with her stare.



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RE: VALLEY OF GWANGI

#6 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:25 pm

Sometimes there is a colour shift, he has never used back projection to my knowledge, favouring front projection for a brighter
image, but I know what Steve means. On Gwangi he got "caught", the labs & filmstock let him down, which is why Gwangi changes
colour from light blue through to a green/blue colour then grey, I love the "evil" expression on this dinosaur, his young Allosaur
has a similar look in "One Million Years B.C." On "Clash of the Titans", I still like the film, I could have done without "Bubo", but
it is still a far better film than its modern counterpart. The 3x400 was a good edit, now here's an oddity, when it made its appearance
around '81 I think it was, I bought a discount print, about £40.00 it was, due to that bloody Elmo, I had a small head presser mark appear,
I bought a replacement reel secondhand about three times, from different lists, of part three, not one of them had the same excellent
print quality of that marked print, the colour is gorgeous, so I ended up keeping the spool that was scratched, I couldn't just let it go
for the sake of a little mark. So obviously different negs and labs being used, my discount print paid off. I still have it now and wonder
what I was bothering about.



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RE: VALLEY OF GWANGI

#7 by Steve Carter ( deleted ) , Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:43 pm

I thought it was back or front Hugh, but you know what I mean, the whole look of the picture changes when a monster appears, take the first Cyclops scene on 7th Voyage, the live action part is sort of softer focus and grainy, this is the same in most of his pictures, Three World's of Guliver, is another I like for my own reasons. Jack the Giant Killer not a Harryhausen picture, but had nice colour, and robbed Torin Thatcher and Kerwin Matthews from 7th Voyage, the Monsters were hidious when compared with Harryhausens creation's.


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RE: VALLEY OF GWANGI

#8 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:59 pm

I know exactly what you mean Steve, yes "Jack the Giant Killer" was hurriedly put out to cash in on the success of "Sinbad", Edward Small had been given the opportunity to make the film ,but turned it down, realised what a mistake that was and made "Jack". He used the skills of Jim Danforth, the models were rushed, didn't have the skin detail of Harryhausen's creations, but it did have those Demons and
Witches that invaded the ship, I'd hazard a guess they scared the hell out of any kids in the audience, Ray's skeleton did it for me when I
viewed it as a kid, when my Dad asked if I was okay, I assured him I was, like hell, I was terrified, but if I'd said different I wouldn't have
been taken to see any more, one thing that does stick in my mind from that film was the lovely Royal blue of the skeleton's shield, it stayed with me for years, just shows how impressionable kids minds are. On its rerelease the skeleton was excised for UK viewing, I can
assure everyone I had nothing to do with that decision.



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RE: VALLEY OF GWANGI

#9 by David Ollerearnshaw , Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:30 pm

Would have loved to have this film, never knew it was on super 8 though. I too bought Clash of the Titans (a Yorkshire Man and a Scotsman)? On special offer. Have seen the new version can only say glad that never will be on super 8. CGI CGC CGS. Must get watching my 16mm's. 7th, Golden, Mysterous Island. The real way to make a film stop motion.


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RE: VALLEY OF GWANGI

#10 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:56 pm

Hi Dave, it was on super 8 in two versions, one was a 2x400 released by LA Films, the other was a German release on 3x400,
which as I said, is the best edit job done on a condensation, all the titles and all the animation is included, despite the
German language, its very easy to follow, I have a nice 16mm print, but still enjoy this when I feel like a Harryhausen
night of all his digests etc.



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RE: VALLEY OF GWANGI

#11 by Robert Crewdson ( deleted ) , Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:32 pm

I have a nice 16mm print as well thanks to the generosity of Hugh



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