Robert, I've never needed anyone to teach me manners, I've lost count of the times I've given up my seat, to accomadate even having to crouch down in case of an inspector while I grovel on the floor, sometimes the young ladies look at you in astonishment, as though you are odd offering your seat, the elderly welcome it! Well keep thinking of me as odd, when our generation, "the rockers" & the Hippies", are gone,God help them. No doubt our parents thought the same of us, but I still give up my seat to the elderly or help folk with difficult loads, yes, maybe I am out of time, but good manners didn't harm anyone, as for the younger generation that think different, they haven't met me. I will be standing over them telling them where they went wrong, first being crossing me.