Sellotape and the likes

#1 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Wed Feb 07, 2018 5:59 pm

What are collectors views on the use of various everyday tapes being used to tape down film leaders in transit?

I rarely receive films any other way now, but I was just interested to hear people's views on this before I then add my own.


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#2 by Robert Crewdson ( deleted ) , Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:40 pm

I've had a number of films both from here and the U.S. that weren't taped down. The ideal tape is masking tape. I bought some from Wilko, especially to tape the ends down, but at 20p a roll, maybe it's too cheap, as I often get films out and find the tape unstuck. I have had a few that were fixed with Sellotape, and this leaves a sticky residue. A bit of WD40 would remove that.



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#3 by Mats Abelli , Wed Feb 07, 2018 6:52 pm

I only use masking tape. It peels off easily. Never sellotape as the glue sticks to the film, even if the tape dries and fall off.


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#4 by Tom Photiou , Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:27 pm

We have recieved many films over the years and the worst is definatly sellotape,
If i sell a film or need to tape it down at all, ((very very rare), i only use masking tape which i get from work as being a motor trade dealership with a bodyshop the tape they use is very good quality and is easy to remove with no residue even if its been on for a year or more. I have bought the cheap crap from Wilkos and B & Q and it is rubbish, if it sticks at all.


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#5 by Stuart Reid , Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:48 pm

Masking tape only for me, Andrew as I'm sure you're now aware!


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#6 by Clyde Miles , Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:57 pm

i have been using a miniture model makers masking tape with excellent results for many years.cant remember the make will check tomorrow. its only about 8mm or 9mm in width,never curls up or leaves a residue on the film


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#7 by Vidar Olavesen , Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:10 am

I dislike that, if anything, use masking tape (for paint)


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#8 by Clyde Miles , Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:13 am

well vidar, what do you use?


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#9 by Mats Abelli , Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:18 am

Clyde! Vidar usually don´t sell films. He´s a frequent buyer.


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#10 by Clyde Miles , Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:23 am

i'm asking him what tape he uses to secure his leaders


 
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#11 by Vidar Olavesen , Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:08 am

In my own, nothing, but 35mm I use masking tape, same type you when painting

It does not stick too much and no goo


 
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RE: Sellotape and the likes

#12 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:32 am

I agree with what most people have said here in that if any kind of household tape should be used to tie down a leader in transit, then thin cut making tape laid length ways just along the film itself and not the reel edges, is about the best method.

For films purchased from dealers, I firmly believe that in built into their cost, should be the price of a new card box and a proper film clip if the original boxes are anything less than in good or at least satisfactory condition.

This goes back to what Mark was saying earlier regarding the fact that often our films can be relatively expensive items attempting to please a specific niche market.
Presentation of the goods should always remain professional in my opinion despite nearly all distributed items now deriving from the second hand marketplace.

A little like many of the better used vinyl record dealers back in the day would always place the second hand vinyl record into a brand new pristine card sleeve which always made the item more desirable than a tatty old ripped original paper sleeve.

The clips for 8mm and 16mm can still be purchased fairly reasonably from places like E.V.E. etc and new boxes can easily be made or purchased still from dealers of such items.
Buying either or both in bulk would bring the price of the items right down and it would bring about a lasting first impression of the goods as they arrive with the customers.

Ian still uses new boxes when the old ones are tatty, occasionally I have known Phil to do the same, but I have never received film from a dealer this time around that uses film clips to secure the leaders in transit.
I feel this would be a nice finishing touch, especially for the longer and more expensive items being sold.


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#13 by Eivind Mork , Thu Feb 08, 2018 6:26 pm

I dislike office tape, but masking tape is ok. At home I use nothing.


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#14 by Tom Photiou , Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:02 pm

We only use masking when sending films, full spools have proper film clips or nothing at all, they dont move or go anywhere so no point.


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#15 by Mats Abelli , Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:25 pm

I do like Tom. Masking tape when I send films. For my own collection, I only use tape for films on core ( 35mm features )


 
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#16 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:03 am

I can instantly think of quite a few films I have where using nothing to tie the leader down would result in a disaster and film all over the floor based on how some of these things were originally spooled, so those even close to the rim certainly need clips.


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#17 by Mats Abelli , Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:18 am

You are quite right Andrew. I have noticed this on Derann features, but the majority of my collection are 300 ft on a 400 spool etc.


 
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#18 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:24 am

It is very common for the feature films on 8 to regularly have at least one or two reels of the film close to edge of the spools Mats.
I have just got in the habit of fitting them to all of the parts these days to stop them unwinding in their boxes.
It's not so necessary for all parts to have clips if the feature box also contains individual boxes for each spool but if the spools are loose inside a feature box, things soon get untidy I've found.


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#19 by David Ollerearnshaw , Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:36 pm

What did they used to use? On 8mm in was about4mm wide looked like masking tape, but the adhesive was stronger. Screwfix sell some good masking tape in green or yellow not sure which one but can be lefet on for weeks.


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#20 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:59 pm

I am not sure of the specific type of tape nor its actual trade name that the distributors used to use and attach to commercial 8mm home movies in their masses back in the day , but i do remember exactly the type you are referring to David. It was fairly thin, very adhesive and had a glossy exterior finish to it and usually came in yellow, red or other primary colours as i recall.


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#21 by David Ollerearnshaw , Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:01 pm

Think it was like that tape they seal the bag with in a butchers shop.


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#22 by Mats Abelli , Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:15 am

Wayne, in USA, sells tape for film ends. He calls them shure tape and pro tape. http://www.16mmdrive-infilms.com/


 
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#23 by Maurice Leakey , Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:15 am

The first thing I do when receiving a newly bought film is to remove any securing tape and then clean off the residue, not forgetting its counterpart on the succeeding turn of the film.
I never use tape. If a film is kept on its spool in a box, or can, the film will remain in position without taping it.


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#24 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:21 am

You are right of course Maurice except for the ones already spoken about, which are full to the rim.

I've used two film clips before now on just one reel of film, spread 180 degrees apart just because the reel was so full and just removing it from its box even, would risk spilling it all over the floor.


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#25 by Mats Abelli , Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:25 am

I use tape, only when shipping films.


 
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