Estar film stock Vs Nitrocellulose and Acetate film bases.

#1 by David Hardy ( deleted ) , Mon May 23, 2016 12:33 pm

In a recent conversation someone asked me why I was not so keen on Estar film stocks taking into
consideration the fact it does not break or split so easy as the "older" more traditional stocks.
My reply ... " Its plastic pal and in my opinion not real FILM ! "

End of conversation . hahahahaha !!
Okay so they are all a plastic but I think Estar is more plastic than the others and
I don't like handling or the feel of the bloody stuff.
Even though it is officialy regarded as FILM.



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#2 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Mon May 23, 2016 1:24 pm

I don't mind it really David, but I am so used to acetate anyway, as long as a light can be put through it, fine, Estar has its weaknesses
like any other product, but it should survive the vagaries of careless operators and dodgy machines.



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#3 by Andrew Woodcock , Mon May 23, 2016 1:56 pm

Everyone here knows my favourite out of the two, but so long as its film (even plastic film ha ha), it's still Rock n Roll to me!

If it's transparent, can be printed upon, can contain a decent magnetic stripe, I'm happy no matter what it is.


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#4 by David Hardy ( deleted ) , Mon May 23, 2016 2:02 pm

Yeah its just me guys. I guess I am old fuddy duddy purist. laugh]


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#5 by Andrew Woodcock , Mon May 23, 2016 2:15 pm

We all like what we like David, nowt wrong with that.... wherever our opinions and tastes lead us to.


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#6 by David Hardy ( deleted ) , Mon May 23, 2016 6:40 pm

Just been thinking to myself .
Super 8 mm Nitrate Film Stock . That would have been very interesting in the hands of
Home Movie enthusiasts in the 1960s and 70s.
I bet there would have been a lot of house fires. hahaha !!!
However those Derann Warner Brothers digest black and white releases would have looked brilliant.


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#7 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Mon May 23, 2016 9:21 pm

I think there would have a bit of interest from the 'elf 'n safety gang David.



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#8 by Jonathan Trevithick ( deleted ) , Mon May 23, 2016 10:35 pm

If a print is Estar, at least it's not going to go vinegar. That's my first priority ,especially with the higher temperatures here. (It was 26 degrees on the weekend and it's nearly winter)!


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#9 by Andrew Woodcock , Mon May 23, 2016 10:47 pm

Crikey Jonathan, we don't see those temperatures in our Summertime here! ...Well nowhere near often enough anyhow!


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#10 by David Hardy ( deleted ) , Tue May 24, 2016 10:40 am

Hugh I agree the Health and Safety brigade spoil a lot of things.
Still does not change the fact that Monochrome films always looked better
on good old ( highly flammable ) Nitrate stock.


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#11 by Andrew Woodcock , Tue May 24, 2016 11:20 am

Not surprisingly David, given all those shiny silver particles in them! Ha ha.


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#12 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:50 am

The point though at the "end of the day", I do hate that over used expression, Nitrate film had no equals or peers, it rendered beautiful
B/W images on screen, all this bollocks spoke of on the 8mm forum of digital being transferred to film, the bottom line is that people that were shown these films in cinemas first time around, viewed film at its peak, Digital is never going to touch a pure image, common sense dictates that. Film, whatever electronic image comes after, is a copy, a copy is never as good as the original, whatever magic is pulled out of the bag, in this instance, film rules OK. Pure & Simple. There are no flies, bugs or anything else on Silver, it being antiseptic and pure.



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#13 by David Ollerearnshaw , Fri Jun 03, 2016 8:34 am


I still love the smell of film in the morning


 
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