MODERN RECORDING METHODS, LACK OF SKILLS

#1 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:07 pm

I know we shouldn't be judgemental, but one can't help but notice the total lack of camera work on these so called "clips" put
up on the likes of YouTube or Facebook, one just posted is a std 8mm conversion, don't know what to or why, all we see is a camera
hosepiping around a darkened room, very odd angles of a very clattery projector and a TV monitor, more hosepiping, finish. The guy
that posted that should take more water with it, a total waste of time, read a cine book, or indeed any book, use a tripod at least,
all this techno, but no camera skill at all, I'll bet he works as a TV cameraman.



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#2 by Alan Rik , Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:35 pm

I saw that as well. As I was watching it I started to get vertigo! The post also had no other information. Why post that if there are no details? Strange.

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#3 by Andrew Woodcock , Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:37 pm

It's a throw away society we live in now, and that includes most of what a digital camera captures, aside from screenshots! Ha ha.

When you used a cine camera at £15 for 3 minutes of film, you had to be more selective about what and how, you captured!



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#4 by Alan Rik , Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:39 pm

Maybe he was channeling Robert L. Drew the father of American cinéma vérité?


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#5 by Paul Browning , Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:46 pm

I think they know that modern technology at the other end can add or subtract anything now shot in most modern day formats Hugh. Just imagine having to wait for modern
day technology to catch up when making some of those epic feature we have all come to love, the whole cast would have been either too old or 6 ft under. Just look at youtube
for the morons who upload footage on to there to see, get yourself a 700 pound iphone and just shoot any old crap, and hear the idiots laughing to encourage them all and sundry
to do it. Yes there all certified Hugh, but not from the school of cinemaphotography.


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#6 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Tue Mar 29, 2016 2:57 pm

If you want a good laugh, check out some of the morons going through their collections of s/8 film and DVDs, no information
as to if it is a well edited cut down, poor sound, no nothing as informative as that, just take it out of its box, juggle it, wind loose
film up, put it back, hold up the pretty box, show us a glimpse of the back, then reads it to himself, WHY? Would it not be better,
to do some background work on who released them, how long they run, how many parts etc, to my mind at least, it is as much
relevance as someone telling you about, or worse still, pictures of their lunch. Sheer self indulgence from idiots with no knowledge and nothing to say. Pack it in!



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#7 by Vidar Olavesen , Tue Mar 29, 2016 3:29 pm

That is probably the camera men Hollywood employs now. New "films" is awful with the camera "work" they use


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#8 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Tue Mar 29, 2016 4:46 pm

It used to be the joke among some people, "Oh no, he's going to show us their Holiday films!", and the captive audience had to endure
an hour of cine film projection, usually, if they were lucky, it was edited, and decent camera work. Not so now, Point & Shoot, or should that be Shit, because now the snap happy gadgee can inflict literally hours of torment on his unsuspecting audience, the victims
of the Inquisition would be familiar with the torments about to be endured, and on a BIG DVD screen, never has a little rhyme had more
significance, "Oh my God the room is black, I'm wishing for a heart attack!" Shots of boats sailing uphill, people hanging onto the beach at
45 degree angles, the trip over some poor bugger fast asleep sunbathing, slipping off the kerb while recording crossing the road, all of
this plus much hosepiping, then comes the whirling dervish bit of trying to record everything in sight, at speed, not to mention, the "can you guess this bit was done on a trampoline?" All in HD!! Oh joy, he says that's only disc one, it ran three hours, and there's a stack of the bloody things, yes it puts cine in perspective, a few spools and the agony was done, not so now, and with sync sound." Editing? What's editing?",
said the guy with the techno clobber.



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#9 by David Ollerearnshaw , Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:51 pm

Quote: Vidar Olavesen wrote in post #7
That is probably the camera men Hollywood employs now. New "films" is awful with the camera "work" they use


Tripods are too expensive now and steady cam out of date. Bloody crap now.


I still love the smell of film in the morning


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