RE: Question

#26 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:43 am

I get it Hugh. You simply can never replace our loved ones in this world. That's what makes life such an adventure. The more we get out there and experience all this world of ours has to offer, the more we experience and the more we have to miss when it's gone.

As the New Radicals once said... "you only get what you give!" In this world of ours.


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RE: Question

#27 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:56 am

I don't doubt that. For one second Hugh!

Kevin is a man who loves Elmo's.
I obviously, as an engineer, will never fully understand his or other like minded people's mentality regarding this one!

Steve is another Elmo "Die Hard"

I've learned to mellow. You cannot possibly begin to reason with the blinkered perspective of some people.

I simple say now..."one man's pill is another man's poison"...a poison I never intend to set foot upon ever again!!

I don't get the fascination with these horrible creatures either, but I cannot change peoples attitudes or perspectives. Nor do I wish to if it continually falls on deaf ears!
It all boils down to what has already been said here earlier this evening about individuals and individuals tastes, no matter how much I find it barking mad!



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RE: Question

#28 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:27 am

Kevin I used to think knew what he was talking about, but I caught him out on edge wear to track guides, he went missing for months
folk thought he was dead, then he was going to pack it in...(crap language removed)



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RE: Question

#29 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:38 am

Both Kevin and Steve are fairly well skilled people. Steve maybe new to the hobby relatively speaking, but on paper, there is nothing within a projectors inner workings that ought to challenge him too much.

Steve is an odd character though I've found. For his skill base, he really ought to have moved on so to speak in this hobby of ours I feel??

Now whats that line from "Poppins" again....?

"Can't see beyond the end of their nose"... ah yes, that's it!



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RE: Question

#30 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 12:56 pm

I cannot say anything on that front Hugh, as I left it for almost two decades before fancying a dabble again with Super 8mm.

I know a lot of people that turned to video projection when it first became a somewhat viable and cheaper alternative. A lot return to this hobby though I've noticed, simply because it gets in your blood.

It's an expensive and often at times, frustrating hobby, but it's difficult to leave a cine projector alone once the bug has bitten.



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RE: Question

#31 by David Hardy ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:11 pm

This may sound a bit harsh but I have no sympathy for those that jumped the ship of
FILM COLLECTOR onto that of VIDEO COLLECTOR in al its fomats.


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RE: Question

#32 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 2:34 pm

In my case, back then with LCD projectors costing around £2K and a little one on the way, it was my only option. I couldn't keep both.
Also,I had become bogged down with my best machine at the time an ST D, and my trusty faithful Agfa LS2 was great but didn't operate on the scale my aspirations for the hobby had taken me to. (ie 1200ft spool capacity min and a bigger and brighter image with dual track sound minimum.)

I didn't begin to ever regret my decision back then until, ironically, Video Projectors were producing amazing images!

I then fancied back tracking a little now with the kids all grown up.
I have far more cine kit then I ever had in the past with the exception of cameras, so I have fulfilled a lot of my ambitions and aspirations as a youngster this time around in the hobby.

i think that for many working class people, the best that cine has to offer is beyond reach at many stages of life, so I would never be too harsh on anyone who has been forced to sell their kit at some point in their adult lives David.
It is usually with some regret or frustration, but often completely necessary for people with young families in particular.



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RE: Question

#33 by David Hardy ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:39 pm

I see your point there Andrew regarding personal circumstances. However the Video Projectors were not
as cheap away back then.
I too was a family man back then but I would never dream of selling my films and equipment to embrace the
new video formats. I am not a wealthy man either. I am still considered working class too.
I have stuck with FILM through all the temptations of the cheapness of tape and disc formats.
I guess my passion for FILM was the overriding factor to stick with it at all costs.
I do have Video Projection too but hardly ever use it now that the novelty value has worn off.


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RE: Question

#34 by Del Phillipson ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 5:57 pm

My path in some way mirror's yours Andrew, late 90's bought a Video projector and in 2005 got back into super 8 which at the time was just going to be a part time thing but my collection is better now than it was in the late 90's. I still have a top notch Sony video projector and it always gets a run out on a Saturday night, however the rest of the week is super 8 time I had been collecting films on and off since the late 60's, standard 8 to start with them bought a Eumig 905 when I started work in 1979, paid £200 new for it at the time.



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RE: Question

#35 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:34 pm

You beat me back here by a few years Del! [

It's great we can now both afford the best of both worlds. That's my outlook anyhow.


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RE: Question

#36 by Del Phillipson ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:58 pm

I like to think I move with the times Andrew, I've recently looked at a Sony 4K projector then hear that 10k is on the horizon. Technology is going far too fast for me, but I look at super 8 as my hobby whereas I love watching films on any format (not VHS), I'll even watch them on TV .



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RE: Question

#37 by Del Phillipson ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:03 pm

By the way Andrew my Bauer T610 is done, Bill has done a six million dollar rebuild on it, it took him two days to tell me all it's faults Can't wait to get it back, hopefully early April (Ealing), he says it runs a treat. Can't thank Bill enough, that's 2 rebuilds in 3 months, top bloke.



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RE: Question

#38 by Paul Browning , Thu Mar 03, 2016 8:38 pm

Core blimey Del, what have you been playing on the 610 to need 2 rebuilds in 3 months, terminator. Did bill use any parts made from 3D Printer technology ?.


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RE: Question

#39 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 9:32 pm

I don't think this will be to the same machine here Paul.

Well done once again Bill! Genius, pure genius!


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RE: Question

#40 by Del Phillipson ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:04 pm

Andrew's right Paul, Bill's first project was my GS which now purrs, can't believe the difference. He didn't use any 3D parts, just what he had in stock. Can't wait to get the Bauer



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RE: Question

#41 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:17 pm

Can't wait to hear your delight Del on receiving it back from Bill.

Give us a full appraisal please Del once you have it again.


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RE: Question

#42 by Del Phillipson ( deleted ) , Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:46 am

and photo's



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RE: Question

#43 by Paul Browning , Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:02 pm

I must get my fumeo to Bill with this low volume issue, I think Hugh had the same problem and he sorted it out, I like the fumeo a good long play machine, pity you carn't get
the sound heads though.


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RE: Question

#44 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:05 pm

Bill will sort it for you Paul, no doubting that.

There are one or two Italian collectors I've seen that know these machines intimately as well though if you just wanted to ask a few questions regarding your issue here.

I also know of a vintage audio specialist here in the North West that is superb. Not seen hardly anything that he hasn't come up with a solution for where vintage audio electronics is concerned, so long as your sound head itself is good.



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RE: Question

#45 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:15 pm

Bill Parsons is the "Yoda" of machine repair, he has no peers, have no fears, the man knows his stuff, he gave me back
a machine I thought was shot, it is better than new!!



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RE: Question

#46 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:19 pm

The only reason I had to source another vintage audio electronics specialist is because Bill didn't particularly relish working on the Beaulieu at the time.

He knows the Elmo machines like the back of his hand and therefore, with also, his huge inventory of spare parts for these machines, these are the repairs he prefers he informed me.

I know the Beaulieu, he viewed as particularly stressful to work on!

But there is nothing ultimately, in the form of projector electronics, that he cannot fix I'd say.



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RE: Question

#47 by Paul Browning , Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:22 pm

I wonder if a circuit could be designed to automatically adjust the playback characteristics to match a sound head that's available to any machine input characteristics ?, you could interchange a head from any machine then, even the best playback machine's are only as good as a good quality tape deck, in fact I rigged up a mono tape player to play a sound film
I had, because my first projector was a silent super 8 with a 50 watt lamp. I have a stereo Heurtier 420 I was going to transplant the whole lot into the fumeo at one point, they are
not known to be brilliant, but they have a well designed transistor mother board, very neat, and it has short circuit relays on the outputs so you can't blow the amps up. I have never
seen this on another machine, perhaps its because those awful two pin output din connections, I could someone stripping the wires back and poking them in the holes held I with
match sticks.


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RE: Question

#48 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:24 pm

Paul,the soundheads are still available, I recently bought one.



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RE: Question

#49 by Paul Browning , Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:25 pm

Bloody hell Hugh, where from my man, pray tell ,


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RE: Question

#50 by Andrew Woodcock ( deleted ) , Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:26 pm

If I were trying to find a replacement for mine that's different to the Woelke 464, I'd try matching up a stereo Goko head and some of the relevant pre amp circuitry maybe?

It's small, it's stereo and its Sendust!!


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