RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#26 by Andrew Woodcock , Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:58 pm

The good thing about using the Beaulieu with 1200ft Elmo or Beaulieu Spools is it is very "under run".

By this I mean, it really does not even feel the load from a 1200ft reel of film. It's the equivalent of 600ft on a 1200ft capacity machine and to that end you are not working the machine hard to its design capabilities.

Also looks very handsome with those Elmo Jewel reels.
As I feel the photo shows on here during the first casual screening of Poltergeist.



 
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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#27 by Vidar Olavesen , Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:59 pm

I have had my GS-1200 Xenon at Bill Parsons twice now, it's picky on prints still. He said he could try to lubricate a print for me, he thinks that will fix it. I want to try that at least. Larger capacity is just a bonus though. Thanks, I guess I will never find one of those, but will keep an eye out


 
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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#28 by Andrew Woodcock , Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:04 pm

They do come along from time to time Vidar. You just have to make sure they post you a video of it fully working and then make sure you are happy with it.

You have the most sought after ( by the masses) of all the machines. I hope Bill can get this running to your satisfaction Vidar.



 
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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#29 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:16 pm

Just to pass comment on the heading, yes the GS1200s are heavy at 14 kg, but the Fumeo is heavier at 14.2, isn't it a pain when someone hammers a point, but that is exactly how I feel when Elmo is hailed as the best thing since sliced bread, if anything it is well past it's sell by date.



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#30 by Vidar Olavesen , Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:37 pm

I am fairly sure the GS is heavier in Xenon. I did not use 10 kg packing :-)

Sadly the GS-1200 is fixed by Mr. Parsons already. He can't do more he said. But on a good print it runs fine


 
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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#31 by Paul Browning , Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:41 pm

YES VIDAR, 20KG


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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#32 by Andrew Woodcock , Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:46 pm

Now that is heavy! No wonder no hard transit case was ever manufactured by the producers of these heavy machines.

You'd need a two man team to lift one in a van.
Mind you my back is already well and truly bent like a banana and I'm certain Paul's must be the same! Ha ha.


 
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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#33 by Paul Browning , Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:47 pm

No Andrew, one in each hand balance's it out I've found. LMAO.


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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#34 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:48 pm

Xenon's will be heavier Vidar, I'm referring to the std GS1200. Its listed in its handbook at 14 kg, which is heavy enough.



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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#35 by Andrew Woodcock , Sat Jan 09, 2016 4:25 pm

Just as an update from a very old thread now, I'd like to add that since doing my own penetration adjustments to the claw mechanism when changing out the main motor on the Beaulieu Stereo quite recently, no more noise is now generated from the projector gate by running acetate prints now, than even with my finest running Polyester prints.

When I first wrote the above information, my projector had been serviced but still did not come back sounding like it does now. Subsequently, what I can now add to give assurance to Vidar, and others in their possible future pursuits, is these can,and should, sound and run ANY print perfectly quietly and with great image stability.

No projector can beat a Bauer T610 for running noise, but these models, when set to their optimum position, just purr and sound terrific throughout and now much much quieter than any ST1200 I have owned, opposite to what I had originally concluded here with acetate prints.



Again, just for clarification here, the following specifications have been found from the old Super 8 database regarding weights of the big three:-

1/ GS 1200 Xenon - 16.5kg (Bloody Heavy!)

2/ Fumeo 9119 / 20 - 14.8KG (Very large & Heavy Duty Motor)

3/ Elmo GS 1200 - 14kg

4/ Beaulieu 708EL CD Stereo - 12.6KG



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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#36 by Alan Rik , Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:06 am

My Beaulieu HTI 708 is REALLY heavy! Makes the GS1200 Xenon seem light in comparison.
It has the ignitor in a separate metal box attached to the projector. But I agree with Andrew. My Beaulieu pretty much plays anything I give it EXCEPT for a few prints and thats because the Beaulieu is such a precise machine it doesn't like bad splices, films that are too brittle, shrunken perfs, etc. It has a very even almost soothing running sound. Sometimes when I can't sleep I put a film on and let the gentle clicking lull me! Well not really but it is a great machine but one day when I am too old to lift it I will move it on and then only use my Bauer.


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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#37 by Mats Abelli , Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:32 am

You talk about Heavy projectors! My latest buy is a really heavyweighter. I Guess something about 2-300 kgs.

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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#38 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:45 am

I would suggest a weight training regime for you lads, a hoist or a permanent position, I inherited a lot of stuff through just this
kind of thing, take care boys.



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#39 by Timothy Duncan ( deleted ) , Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:37 am

Mats, what guage is that machine? And how old is it? It looks VERY robust!



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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#40 by Mats Abelli , Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:47 am

It´s a Bauer B11, 35 mm projector. It must be from the 50´s or 60´s. German craftsmanship. Built like a tank.


 
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#41 by Timothy Duncan ( deleted ) , Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:22 pm

VERY NICE MATS!


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#42 by David Hardy ( deleted ) , Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:46 pm

I hope you have concrete floors Mats.
I have 35mm Westar that is dismantled and it lives under my stairs cupboard. It takes two to lift the mech.
The Lamp Arc Housing and Projector base live in my outside cellar.
Maybe someday I will get round to my restoration job.



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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#43 by David Hardy ( deleted ) , Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:00 am

Mind you my CARL ZEISS TK 35 portable 35mm is a fair old bloody weight.
The photo is not mine but this should give you some idea of them if you have not seen them before.

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RE: GS1200's are bloody heavy!

#44 by Mats Abelli , Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:34 am

No David. I don´t have a concrete floor. My house is all made of wood, but don´t worry. We Scandinavians know how to build wooden houses, that will keep up for centuries.


 
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