War movies: Anyone else collect them?

#1 by Douglas Warren ( deleted ) , Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:03 pm

Does anyone here have an interest in the war movie genre? Since I got back into collecting I've picked up several digests including titles such as: Dawn Patrol,Wings,Sgt.York,etc. I enjoy films that cover many different eras of conflict.One of my favorites is "The Dirty Dozen" starring Lee Marvin.



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#2 by Vidar Olavesen , Wed Aug 19, 2015 6:09 pm

Not in particular, but then again, I collect just about everything film, except porn and someones home movies.

Have Sgt. York, The Dirty Dozen (200', 400', 1200') and I think Wings too. Where Eagles Dare is among the best. Would you call Block-Heads a war movie? ;-)



 
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#3 by Robert Crewdson ( deleted ) , Wed Aug 19, 2015 8:31 pm

I don't particularly collect war movies, though I do have some in other formats. You are probably thinking of WW2; I have some newsreel footage, and a 200ft Super 8 on the Battle of Britain, put out by Derann, using Fletcher Film negatives. In features I have 'Northern Pursuit', starring Errol Flynn, as a German Canadian who infiltrates a group of Nazis in Canada, who are planning to assemble a bomber from parts shipped in crates. The only other feature with a war theme, is, 'The Charge of the Light Brigade', again with Errol Flynn, about the British army in the Crimea.



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#4 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:15 pm

The only war films I have are "DIRTY DOZEN","WHERE EAGLES DARE", "GUNS OF NAVARONE", "BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI", "CROSS OF IRON", "CROSS OF IRON 2","THE EAGLE HAS LANDED", "MURPHY'S WAR", "IN WHICH WE SERVE", "SHOUT AT THE DEVIL", NAKED & THE DEAD", "HORNET'S NEST", & "THE LONGEST DAY". Surprised me how a genre I didn't give much thought to builds up.



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#5 by Vidar Olavesen , Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:23 pm

All these features or some digests? Good selection for sure. Have some of these myself


 
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#6 by Robert Crewdson ( deleted ) , Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:23 pm

I remember DCR brought out 'The Heroes of Telemark', that's a good movie.



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#7 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:45 pm

I forgot to mention, I have that too, a 7x400, a very good film, a film that makes you want to sit closer to the warm projector with all
that snow.



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#8 by Vidar Olavesen , Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:48 pm

Norway is cold, because we want to keep our films for a long time ;-)


 
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#9 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Wed Aug 19, 2015 9:59 pm

I remember showing "Hornets Nest" to Susan some years ago, a very moving tale of Italian war orphans fighting the Nazis after their
families have just been eradicated, some of the youngsters are killed, that together with a beautiful Ennio Morricone music score
had tears flowing, the showman in me was chuffed, sad or what. The film starred Rock Hudson, who despite his secret coming out
puts in a great performance, that's a good actor for you.



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#10 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:04 am

Thank God for Norway, not only in WW2, but in keeping films cold, a great country.



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#11 by Timothy Duncan ( deleted ) , Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:30 am

Nobody mentioned "Tora! Tora! Tora!". I have a 200' color/sound reel that has the attack scenes on Pearl Harbor. For a movie released in 1970, I think those special effects are pretty darn awesome! Made long before the days of CGIs, there was a lot of money poured into this production I bet.


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#12 by Douglas Warren ( deleted ) , Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:35 am

I did forget to mention that one and I own it! It's a strange case where the 200' version in my opinion is superior to the 400' version.



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#13 by Timothy Duncan ( deleted ) , Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:40 am

Hi Doug,
Did the 400' version contain the same attack/destruction scenes as the 200' reel? What additionally does the 400' have?
-Tim


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#14 by Timothy Duncan ( deleted ) , Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:42 am

Hi Doug,
Did the 400' version contain the same attack/destruction scenes as the 200' reel? What additionally does the 400' have? I only wish my reel wasn't missing some of the beginning.
-Tim


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#15 by Timothy Duncan ( deleted ) , Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:42 am

Oops, I submitted the above comment twice!


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#16 by Robert Crewdson ( deleted ) , Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:01 pm

Hugh, I saw a CD yesterday of Ennio Morricone film themes.



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#17 by Panayotis A. Carayannis ( deleted ) , Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:22 am

HEARTS OF HUMANITY, THE BIG PARADE, WINGS, A WALK IN THE SUN, THE ONE THAT GOT AWAY, THE CRUEL SEA, THE WOODEN HORSE and,let's not forget YANKEE DOODLE IN BERLIN!


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#18 by Panayotis A. Carayannis ( deleted ) , Fri Aug 21, 2015 5:59 pm

I forgot also to mention I WAS MONTY'S DOUBLE..



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#19 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Fri Aug 21, 2015 11:49 pm

Nice collection of films there Panayotis, I did notice that on standard 8mm, in the early days, films were released more or less complete,
I stilll have Mountain's "Babes in Toyland", "Blood on His Lips" aka "Hideous Sun Demon", missing a rat eating scene that could be due to British censors at the time, otherwise complete, also "The Demon Doctor" reduced to 4x400 on s/8, but full length on std 8mm,5x400', as was " Retreat Hell" 5x400 std 8mm, cut to 4x400 S/8. Mountain were the worst at penny pinching at the cost to the customer, which is why I avoided their "sales"i n the '80s, cut to death film.



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#20 by David Hardy ( deleted ) , Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:01 am

I stopped collecting them as an awful lot of people seem to get shot or blown to bits in them. The entertainment value can get a bit repetitive and boring.


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#21 by Vidar Olavesen , Sat Aug 22, 2015 12:27 pm

Got my two documentaries from Barry today ... Thanks, Barry, so happy to get the collection complete.


 
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#22 by Douglas Warren ( deleted ) , Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:00 pm

Tim,
The 400' version of " Tora! Tora! Tora! " contains much of the same action sequences.I wish it had added more but over half of the reel is made up scenes leading up to the attack.



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#23 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Mon Aug 24, 2015 1:50 am

Douglas, the American print of this film was superb, a far better film than "Pearl Harbour", for such a short running time, Ken films
did a fantastic job on editing this film from epic running time of 143 minutes to about 16, was a herculean task that the editor at Ken certainly met. I had the UK print which was grainy, got the American one, sold it with many others years ago to pay for silly things like
building materials, regretted if ever since, but it was by far the best ever recreation of Pearl Harbour committed to film. Forgot also "The Wild Geese" & "Casablanca" and "African Queen" to the list of war films.



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#24 by Douglas Warren ( deleted ) , Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:04 am

Hi Hugh,
My issue with Ken Films 400' was the overdone narration.I fully agree,that editing such a long movie down to 16 minutes was a challenge.Being a fan of it (saw it twice when originally released) I should be grateful that a Super-8 version exists. "Pearl Harbor" is a travesty of a film on all accounts.As mentioned,I prefer my 200' copy due to less narration being present.



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#25 by Hugh Thompson Scott ( deleted ) , Mon Aug 24, 2015 2:52 am

Yes, I take the point on narration Doug, but the editing of this film for such a short running time was a guide to others, My late Dad loved it, particularly the scene when the Japanese bomb the airfield and a prop from one of the ''planes, still revolving is bent in its
journey over the runway, great effects put across in a non "John Wayne" heroic, a documentary style film, I intend to get this film back into the collection, a classic.



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